Lavin Big Iron Shootout

Nelmlund

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4 jan 2009
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nä men fyfan. dom vet ju inte hur många som blivit begravd av den där. Det lär ju komma fram i sommar förhoppningsvis när det har tinat en del
 

Rbanan

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15 jan 2010
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Illa illa, rätt mycke folk på ett koncentrerat område också går en lavin. hoppas dom hittar alla begravda oavsett om dom lever eller inte. Får en att begrunda att man kanske skulle prioritera lite lavinutrustning även om man kör här i lilla sverige.
Har varit med om att utlösa en lavin, ingen stor men är ingen liten kraft i de hela kan man säga, blev dock inte begravd eller nå.
 

Nordland1

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14 jan 2008
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Jonas Ångman från vårt testteam är där, men enligt rykten ska han ha klarat sig från att dras med...

Jag återkommer så fort jag fått kontakt med honom....
 

VändhjuletFTW

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20 mar 2008
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Hemskt att sånt här händer :(

_N_S_: Av den anledningen bojkottar jag aftonbladet, tycker det är en skit tidning som inte skrivet något vettigt alls.
 

Rbanan

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15 jan 2010
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It’s been several days now since the tragic avalanche at Turbo Hill. The latest reports are that two are deceased and three are still hospitalized. The media is also reporting that there were 200 snowmobilers at Turbo at the time of the slide. The avalanche is reported to have been up to 150 meters wide and 10 meters deep. That, my friends, is a BIG avalanche!

I’d like to put some perspective on this – a snowmobiler’s perspective. Apparently no one in the media is a snowmobiler or is concerned about taking the time to gather the facts – not just the bad, but the good as well. And there is good to be heard in this story. If you ask a snowmobiler – they’d be able to tell you what that is. But either the media isn’t asking, or has heard it and doesn’t feel that the facts are newsworthy.

However, I feel these facts are the MOST newsworthy topic of this entire tragedy.

Saturday afternoon, following the close of the events for the annual Big Iron Shootout, a large group of snowmobilers headed to Turbo Bowl to make a run at the hill. As the riders lined up at the bottom of the hill, the mass of spectators parked their sleds and prepared to enjoy the show. As one of the sleds turned out towards the top, the hillside gave way. Thundering down the mountain it came – taking sleds and riders with it. This powerful act of nature happens in a split second. There is no time to react.

The time to react is as soon as it stops. And react – with speed and knowledge – in the midst of chaos – is what those sledders did. There were no typical first responders to this catastrophe in the immediate moments following the avalanche. Only snowmobilers. Those same snowmobilers that the media is painting with a broad stroke as crazy, ignorant, thrill-seekers.

As a back country snowmobiler myself, I can tell you that ignorant is not a word that I would use to describe those survivors. I would call them heroes! And justly so. In the midst of what may have been the most terrifying minutes of their lives, they turned their avalanche beacons to search, they got out their probes and their shovels and they started rescue protocols IMMEDIATELY – likely while in a state of shock. They dug out those that were buried, they triaged the injured, they administered first aid, they built fires to keep them warm until the helicopters arrived. These people were heroic!! Without their quick and educated responses, many more people would have died.

I am angered that the media is so eager to report this story that they are being so disgraceful to the victims and survivors. These people need support and compassion. They do not need to be stereotyped and degraded in the media or by anyone else. Shame on you!! Didn’t your mother teach you better manners than that?

I’m not done though – there is way more information about snowmobilers in respect to the Big Iron Shootout and Revelstoke that the media hasn’t covered yet. While they gleefully report that this is an unsanctioned (I’ll get to that in a moment) event drew 200 sledders (despite the grave warnings from the avalanche center), what they aren’t telling you is that there are likely double that number of snowmobilers who DIDN’T attend this year’s event – because of the conditions. Snowmobilers who DID heed the warnings.

As I was reading the snowmobiling forums and Facebook on Saturday evening, the same story continued to repeat itself – people concerned about friends who generally attend the BIS, those friends checking in and saying they didn’t go this year, or they were in the area but avoided Turbo Bowl because of the warnings and the conditions they were already aware of. You see, back country snowmobilers are often in the back country two or more days a week and already have first hand insight to the conditions.

Regarding the word being used in almost every story – unsanctioned. It is true that there is no sanctioning organization for this event. Not the town of Revelstoke nor the Revelstoke Snowmobile Club. However, just because it’s not sanctioned does not mean that it is illegal.

Snowmobilers often gather in large groups to ride with friends who are generally dispersed all over Canada and the United States. I personally rode with a group of 30 riders at an “unsanctioned” event in Wyoming. Oops! I also rode at another “unsanctioned” event, ummm, better make that two, here in Oregon. Rest assured, I am not a criminal nor are any of the snowmobilers that I know.

The internet keeps the snowmobiling community connected. There are 1,000s of unsanctioned events that simply start by someone saying, “hey – who wants to ride this weekend?” Next thing ya know, word spreads about how much fun everyone had and it snowballs from there (pun intended). They grow into these annual events…”same date next year?”

So, here’s what happens next – the date is set. Motel rooms are reserved. Trucks and sleds are fueled. Vacation time is requested. Then individuals, families and social groups all head into a remote mountain town. They buy. They buy. They buy a lot!! They spend money – because they can.

It is with great sadness that I have to dispel the myth that mountain snowmobilers are a bunch of rednecks. All you really need to do is add up the costs to outfit an individual – much less an entire family – with a sled and the proper safety gear. Since this article is really targeted at those individuals who are not mountain sledders, I will point out that everything – got that?…EVERYTHING, on your person and on your sled is part and parcel of your survival gear. From your gloves, to your coat, to the sunglasses in your backpack. Trying to save a dime in buying a coat is really not advised, when that coat may be the only thing protecting you from the elements if you have to stay overnight. With all that said, here’s a run down of estimated costs of the primary accessories needed to sled in the back country.

• Sled $6,000-$14,000 USD
• Clothes (including base, mid and outer layers – top & bottom) $800-$1,200 USD
• Boots/gloves/helmet $245-$800 USD
• Backpack (non-avy) $60-$120 USD
• Backpack (avy) $1,000-$1,200 USD
• Body armor (tek vest, knee pads, etc) $60-$300 USD
• Beacon, probe, shovel $250-$400 USD

This doesn’t include a lot of items, such as matches, radios, compass, fire starter, flashlight, and the list goes on, and the costs add up. It would be GREATLY appreciated if the media would STOP perpetuating the myths that sledders are ignorant, beer-swilling, couch-potatoes. Because it’s simply not true.

The fact is that mountain sledders do not fit a stereotypical mold. They come from all areas of the business world…from CEOs to millworkers. They have families and they are single. They are old and they are young. They are world-class athletes and they are physically handicapped. They survive corporate down-sizing, cancer, divorces, etc….just like everyone else.

The thing that binds us together is our great love for the back country in the winter. We are modern day adventurers. We want to get out there – in the mountains. We want to explore and play and wonder at the beauty. We love the snow! When it covers the trees, when it flies up in our faces, when it gives us a playground of vast proportions. That is when we are in heaven. That is when our souls glow.

We are not anything that the media will have tried to make us out to be in the last couple of days. We are so much more. It’s truly a pity that the media isn’t interested in shining any light on the truth.

The truth is - the Turbo Bowl avy survivors are HEROS. We in the snowmobiling communities – far and wide – are praying for the full recovery of those injured, in body and in spirit. And finally, with great compassion and sympathy we extend our heartfelt condolences to the families of those who perished.

I wrote this and I am Susie Rainsberry, Oregon resident, back-country snowmobiler. I provide free and complete liberty for others to share and disperse this message. The time has come to stop the slandering of good individuals just because they ride snowmobiles.






Kan inte göra än att hålla med denna Susie i det hon säger, Media i USA verkar se ner på oss skoteråkare även där!
 
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Jag har en känsla av att den här olyckan kunde blivit betydligt värre om det inte vore för ett snabbt och hjältemodigt ingripande från andra skoteråkare på plats. I usa/canada är det näst intill en självklarhet att man har med sig spade, sond och transciever (och användarkunskap) när man ger sig ut i baklandet. Många har även ryggsäck med airbag.
Utrustning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrzGkmo0CXM
Nu har det ju inte framkommit några officiella siffror, men av de 150-200 pers som befann sig mitt i lavinens färdväg så var det vad jag hört, minst 30 som hamnade under snön. För bara något årtionde sedan var dödligheten över 50% när man vart begravd av en lavin. Tack vare att det fanns så många väl utrustade och väl utbildade människor på plats så var de enda dödsfallen denna gång de som dog direkt av krosskador. Helt fantastiskt att man lyckades gräva fram alla (döda och levande) innan mörkret trots att klockan var halv 4 när lavinen gick!
Det gjordes även stora misstag vid denna incident. Det kanske största var att så många människor befann sig rakt nedanför sluttningen mitt i en potentiell lavins färdväg. Ofta är det inte den person som utlöser lavinen som råkar illa ut, utan de som befinner sig nedanför. Som tex vid den dödsolycka vi hade i kirunafjällen för några år sedan när en ung kille stod nedanför en fjällsida och filmade en kompis som utlöste en lavin med sin skoter.
 

_night_stalker_

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17 jan 2007
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Jag har en känsla av att den här olyckan kunde blivit betydligt värre om det inte vore för ett snabbt och hjältemodigt ingripande från andra skoteråkare på plats. I usa/canada är det näst intill en självklarhet att man har med sig spade, sond och transciever (och användarkunskap) när man ger sig ut i baklandet. Många har även ryggsäck med airbag.
Utrustning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrzGkmo0CXM
Nu har det ju inte framkommit några officiella siffror, men av de 150-200 pers som befann sig mitt i lavinens färdväg så var det vad jag hört, minst 30 som hamnade under snön. För bara något årtionde sedan var dödligheten över 50% när man vart begravd av en lavin. Tack vare att det fanns så många väl utrustade och väl utbildade människor på plats så var de enda dödsfallen denna gång de som dog direkt av krosskador. Helt fantastiskt att man lyckades gräva fram alla (döda och levande) innan mörkret trots att klockan var halv 4 när lavinen gick!
Det gjordes även stora misstag vid denna incident. Det kanske största var att så många människor befann sig rakt nedanför sluttningen mitt i en potentiell lavins färdväg. Ofta är det inte den person som utlöser lavinen som råkar illa ut, utan de som befinner sig nedanför. Som tex vid den dödsolycka vi hade i kirunafjällen för några år sedan när en ung kille stod nedanför en fjällsida och filmade en kompis som utlöste en lavin med sin skoter.
Finns dessa ABS ryggsäckar att köpa i sveige? Jag behöver investera i en ny till nästa vinter så en sån hade ju absolut inte skadat att ha :)
 

Woodlauncher

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1 nov 2007
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Det gjordes även stora misstag vid denna incident. Det kanske största var att så många människor befann sig rakt nedanför sluttningen mitt i en potentiell lavins färdväg. Ofta är det inte den person som utlöser lavinen som råkar illa ut, utan de som befinner sig nedanför. Som tex vid den dödsolycka vi hade i kirunafjällen för några år sedan när en ung kille stod nedanför en fjällsida och filmade en kompis som utlöste en lavin med sin skoter.
I denna lavin så var 2 av de döda de som utlöste lavinen, som jag förstår det..