Staffs "Fjällcam".. är de möjligt?

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ejwbegysv

Ja efter 7 bedrövelser med byte av server för snowmobile så har jag nu tagit ledigt en stund från buggfixandet och börjat fundera på hur jag ska konfigurera fjälldatorn...

Började med att strula runt med att köra en specialare av windows XP via USB-sticka, men efter 4 timmars strul med detta så bytte jag spår och fixade fram en SATA-CD-läsare och modifierade en USB-sticka till hårddisk, gick fint att installera Windows XP på usb-stickan men efter en omstart så blev det "Diskfel" :Cry:

Nu håller jag på och trixar med olika sätt att formatera USB-stickan för att försöka komma vidare... en laptop HDD ligger och väntar i värsta fall men tror inte den palla kyla/värme samt drar för mycket ström.

Lite bilder :
Moderkort samt minne monterat :


CD-läsaren nästan större än datorn :rolleyes:


Backpanel :


Det programeringsbara nätagget, klarar 6-24volt.. komemr att programmera det att starta varje timme i ca 5 minuter.


Strualr en massa med installationen... grrr
 
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ejwbegysv

Bluescreen :) Fick till XP installationen, men när den laddar OS:et från USB-stickan så laddar den även drivare för USB och tappar då kontakten med start-usbn :



:smash:
 
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ejwbegysv

Några timmar senare :


Fick bygga om xp installationsskivan för att ladda USB drivarna direkt..

Nu funkar allt, dock får man en varning för att den ej kan hitta en växlingsfil vid boot.. men det lösers sig nog..

tar ca 40 sekunder att starta datorn och prestandan verkar vara helt ok..
 

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Någon som är duktig på batterier? hur många amp-timmar får man ur ett fullladdat 75amp bilbatteri om man går ner till 11,2volt?

Släng dator batteri och allting i frysen med datorn på omstart var 5minut och se hur lång tid det tar innan du är nere på 11,2 volt?
Hur ska du lösa problemet med snö på linsen? finns ju en viss risk att det kommer snöa lite uppe på fjället?

Vad är anledningen till att köra xp? Finns ju annars väldigt fina operativsystem som funkar utmärkt att bota och köra på en usbsticka.

Väldigt intressant projekt och jag hoppas det kommer fungera.
 
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ejwbegysv

Släng dator batteri och allting i frysen med datorn på omstart var 5minut och se hur lång tid det tar innan du är nere på 11,2 volt?
Hur ska du lösa problemet med snö på linsen? finns ju en viss risk att det kommer snöa lite uppe på fjället?

Vad är anledningen till att köra xp? Finns ju annars väldigt fina operativsystem som funkar utmärkt att bota och köra på en usbsticka.

Väldigt intressant projekt och jag hoppas det kommer fungera.
Hej..

Anledningen till xp var främst att programvaran för väderstationen som jag har byggt själv är till windows... samt att jag inte orkar strula med linux just nu.. men vem vet det kanske blir någon dist av linux i framtiden om jag inte blir nöjd med xp...

Ang. snö på linsen så hoppas jag att lådan som allt kommer att monteras i skall bli lite varm.. men vem vet...
 
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ejwbegysv

Sådär.. nu fungerar datorn som den ska.. felmeddelandet vid start är fixat av hensun här på forumet som har magiska fingrar verkar det som...

Har även installerat 3g modem från telia, fjärrstyrningsprogram (www.logmein.se) samt börjat fippla lite med kameran..

 
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ejwbegysv

Den har testats över Jul/nyår i minus 30 grader bla... Fungerar bra men har lite dåligt med tid just nu tyvärr...
 

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Höll på med en liknande grej för en några år sen. En Kameramobil ombyggd till tjuvlarm som kunde ta bilder och skicka om det vart inbrott. Det föll på dels att kameran var kass Ericsson från 2002 samt att jag hade svårt att få microkontrollern att sammarbeta stabilt med telefonen. I dag borde man kunna implementera all det som man vill ha i en modernare mobil men samtdigt har kraven för att kunna programmera allt höjts ett par snäpp.

Angående laddnig så har jag sett att på många fritidshus i norra sverige har man en ytterst liten vindsnurra som underhållsladdning för solcellsbatterier uder den mörka årstiden. De har ca 40 cm diameter och ger några watt, tyvärr kommer jag inte i håg vem som har tillverkat dessa.
 
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ejwbegysv

Projektet är nedlagt i brist på tid... testade dock dator + kyla + batteri i minus 25 grader utan problem...
 

pezon

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Några timmar senare :
Fick bygga om xp installationsskivan för att ladda USB drivarna direkt..

Nu funkar allt, dock får man en varning för att den ej kan hitta en växlingsfil vid boot.. men det lösers sig nog..

tar ca 40 sekunder att starta datorn och prestandan verkar vara helt ok..
Hej, jag har en fråga.
Hur fick du till det med USB drivarna?
Jag har försökt men det har fallit på att XP resetar USB portarna under boot så att man tappar kontakten med USB stickan... inte så bra om man vill botta från den
 
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ejwbegysv

Hej, jag har en fråga.
Hur fick du till det med USB drivarna?
Jag har försökt men det har fallit på att XP resetar USB portarna under boot så att man tappar kontakten med USB stickan... inte så bra om man vill botta från den
Otroligt mycket jobb att få till detta, här är en guide:

Installera Windows XP på en USB-sticka! / Install Windows XP on USB-driveWhat is this about?To keep the introduction short, Microsoft denies that booting Windows off a USB drive works.

See this page for example. It says:

Q: Can a USB storage device be the primary (and only) means of storage?
No. USB-based mass storage devices cannot be the primary hard disk storage solution on a regular system ...

Or this one from the microsoft newsgroups:

Windows cannot boot from an USB drive. If your computer supports
booting from such device, you can load a boot loader to the USB device
which starts Windows XP from the HDD.

Anyway, the web is full of those. I was wondering about the same thing, as i did not want to put a Windows partition on my Linux.based work laptop, and thought it was a good idea to run Windows XP off a USB Hard drive that i just plug in when i need it, and boot from it. To put a long story short, this is exactly what i do now, thanks to the fantastic research of the people credited below. However, it took me significant time to figure out all the painful little problems, and i was not fully happy with the current official guide by Dietmar (no pun, he was the first to make ANYthing public). I wanted an easy guide that allows creating a modified version of the Windows XP CD, for painless and transparent installation to as many systems as you want.

This page is the result of my work. Have fun!


Credits
...must go to the people that made this guide possible in the first place. In recent months, a few blokes going by the handles of mkiaer, Dietmar and sisal and a few others from the 911.net forums came up with many good pieces of research on how to enable any NT-based Windows to boot from a USB-drive. Little of this guide would exist without them - in fact the only reason why i write this up is that my particular solution seems to be lower effort than any of the steps i saw before. Many of the steps here are the result of their research.

Version History:


•v1.0 - 3rd Mar 2006
rewritten, tested and working against two different drives with my laptop.
•v0.9 - 29th Feb 2006
initial version, untested

What works?
Basically, everything as far as i can see. After completing this tutorial, your Windows XP install should directly boot off your USB-drive, and be fully upgradable, DirectX games will run, all apps i tested work like normal, speed is the same as with a real HDD (you need USB2 though) - so it is in fact a fine solution as far as i can see.
Host Hardware USB hardware Successful
Dell Latitude D820 WD Pocket Drive 80gb Yes
DFI Infinity Ultra 2
Dane Elec 4GB USB Stick
Yes

Asus M2A-VM HDMI
Adata PD2 4GB Stick
Yes

HP Compaq 6510b
WD 2908A
Yes

Compaq nc6400
WD2500BEV
Yes

Compaq nc6400
Trekstore i.Beat 2GB
No

Compaq nc6400
Hitachi DK23EA-30
No

Compaq nc6220
TrackStore DataStation XU
Yes

HP Pavillion dv6700t
InfoSafe USB with Toshiba SATA 250GB
Yes

Compaq nc6120
Lacie 80gb
Yes

Asus P5LD2-VM
Vantec IDE to USB cable + Maxtor 60gb PATA
Yes

Thinkpad T42
WD HDD Passport 2
Yes

Acer Aspire 5600
Ipod 20g Photo
Yes

Thinkpad T43
Generic 80gb USb2 case
Yes

HP Pavillion dv1000
Generic USB2 HDD
Yes

Thinkpad R61
Generic USB2 / Seagate 120 GB
Yes

Dell Latitude D620
PQI i221 USB stick
Yes

Fujitsu Lifebook E8410C
Shintaro USB2 + 80GB Samsung
Yes

Dell Inspiron 6400
generic USB2 enclosure
Yes

Intel 945 GNT
Kingston 4GB SDHC with USB adapter
Yes

HP nx6110
Sandisk Cruze 8gb
Yes

HP nx6110
OneTouch4 Mini
No

Dell Latitude D620
Seagate FreeAgent 500GB
Yes

Acer Aspire 5710G
Adata 4GB stick
Yes

...and LOTS more...




Disclaimer
This is a hobby project of mine. I will not assume ANY responsibility for the correctness of this guide, nor can I be made liable for any errors, hardware or software problems / loss that are caused by following this guide. Basically, if things screw up, its your own fault. Do not follow the guide if you fear data loss.
Requirements
•An existing Windows install for carrying out the steps in this tutorial
•A USB2-compliant Hard disk drive (or a big USB2 stick, see remarks below)

•An original Windows XP CD (tested only against SP1 so far, but reported to work on other versions)
•A registered version of WinISO (or any other software that allows direct editing of ISO files)
•The Microsoft CAB SDK
•A CD-burning software that can handle ISO files. I like the free burnatonce

How To:
Summary:

We will dump the contents of your original Windows XP CD , extract a few files from the Image using ISO modification software, edit the files, and put the modified versions back on the ISO. The resulting ISO image is burnt back onto a CD media, and can then directly be used to install Windows on your USB drive.

I am also covering a few pitfalls that happened to me, in hope they will save you a bit of time.




1) Does your computer support booting from USB?

Usually, if its an option in your BIOS boot sequence menu, the answer to this is yes. If its not there, look for BIOS updates. If you are not sure, proceed and see what happens ;-)

2) Sorting out the "Bootability" of your USB-Drive


Connect your USB drive to your computer, directly, without a Hub. Then, shut down your computer, disconnect any other hard disk drives from it, and insert your original Windows XP CD into the drive. Start the installation, and proceed to the section where you are allowed to pick a hard drive. If it goes beyond the partition selection, your drive is already fine for booting Windows XP. If not (seems to be the cases with many of the Freecom USB HDDs for example), you will get an error like "Windows is unable to find your drive, partition, data etc bla". This is usually not a big problem. All you need to do is "properly" format the drive. Reboot into your normal Windows, and get this HP tool , and use it to format your HDD completely. I chose NTFS format, worked fine everytime i tried. After this, my drives are recognized as valid installation devices by the Windows XP installer.
(In fact, i did not manage to create a USB primary partition with FAT32 that was recognized as being installable)

3) Dumping the original Windows CD into an ISO File




Pretty easy one. Simply open WinISO, and select Actions -> Make ISO from CDROM, and save your CD image.


4) Extracting the files we need to work on



After the CD dump is done, close and reopen WinISO. Then, open the ISO file you just created using File -> Open.
Now, click the I386 folder, and select the following files (Ctrl key to multi-select)


•TXTSETUP.SIF
•DOSNET.INF
•USB.IN_
•USBPORT.IN_
•USBSTOR.IN_
Select Actions -> Extract and put the resulting files into some folder to work on them.


5) Unpacking IN_ files





Use the Cab SDK (from the command line) for extracting the contents of the .IN_ files. Each of them contains exactly one .inf file. If you are unsure how to use the Cab SDK, here is an example command line: "cabarc x USBSTOR.IN_" . You should end up with three new files in the folder, called:

•usb.inf
•usbport.inf
•usbstor.inf
You can now delete the .IN_ files.


6) Editing the files


This is the main job. i ll also try to explain a bit whats happening. Use a simple Texteditor like Notepad.

6-A) TXTSETUP.SIF

This file is loaded on the initial install step by the Windows XP CD installer. In this file, we will change the way Windows treats USB devices during system setup -- the default is to only treat them as input devices during installation -- we will change this to include mass storage driver support (which needs to be loaded into the installer much earlier in order to work).

First, move the following entries from [InputDevicesSupport.Load] to the [BootBusExtenders.Load] section , as shown here



[BootBusExtenders.Load]
pci = pci.sys
acpi = acpi.sys
isapnp = isapnp.sys
acpiec = acpiec.sys
ohci1394 = ohci1394.sys
usbehci = usbehci.sys
usbohci = usbohci.sys
usbuhci = usbuhci.sys
usbhub = usbhub.sys
usbstor = usbstor.sys


[InputDevicesSupport.Load]
usbehci = usbehci.sys
usbohci = usbohci.sys
usbuhci = usbuhci.sys
usbhub = usbhub.sys
usbccgp = usbccgp.sys
hidusb = hidusb.sys
serial = serial.sys
serenum = serenum.sys
usbstor = usbstor.sys


... now the same for [BootBusExtenders] and [InputDevicesSupport]





[BootBusExtenders]
pci = "PCI-Bustreiber",files.pci,pci
acpi = "ACPI Plug & Play-Bustreiber",files.acpi,acpi
isapnp = "ISA Plug & Play-Bustreiber",files.isapnp,isapnp
acpiec = "Integrierter ACPI-Controllertreiber",files.none,acpiec
ohci1394 = "IEEE-1394-Bus-OHCI-konformer Anschlusstreiber",files.ohci1394,ohci1394
usbehci = "Erweiterter Hostcontroller",files.usbehci,usbehci
usbohci = "Open Hostcontroller",files.usbohci,usbohci
usbuhci = "Universeller Hostcontroller",files.usbuhci,usbuhci
usbhub = "Standard-USB-Hubtreiber",files.usbhub,usbhub
usbstor = "USB-Speicherklassentreiber",files.usbstor,usbstor


[InputDevicesSupport]
usbehci = "Erweiterter Hostcontroller",files.usbehci,usbehci
usbohci = "Open Hostcontroller",files.usbohci,usbohci
usbuhci = "Universeller Hostcontroller",files.usbuhci,usbuhci
usbhub = "Standard-USB-Hubtreiber",files.usbhub,usbhub
hidusb = "HID-Parser",files.hidusb,hidusb
serial = "Treiber fär seriellen Anschluss",files.none,serial
serenum = "Enumerator fär seriellen Anschluss",files.none,serenum
usbstor = "USB-Speicherklassentreiber",files.usbstor,usbstor
usbccgp = "USB Generic Parent Driver",files.usbccgp,usbccgp


Next, we also have to write several keys into the registry. Convieniently, the txtsetup.sif allows you to specify files that are parsed and instered into the registry at install time. Insert the following in the [HiveInfs.Fresh] section:

[HiveInfs.Fresh]
AddReg = hivedef.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hivesys.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hivesft.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hivecls.inf,AddReg
AddReg = hiveusd.inf,AddReg
AddReg = dmreg.inf,DM.AddReg
AddReg = usbboot.inf,usbservices




and also in [SourceDisksFiles]

[SourceDisksFiles]
usbboot.inf = 1,,,,,,_x,3,,3
bootvid.dll = 1,,,,,,3_,2,0,0,,1,2
kdcom.dll = 1,,,,,,3_,2,0,0,,1,2

Finally, save and close TXTSETUP.SIF. We are done with it.

6-B) DOSNET.INF

Now, open DOSNET.INF , and change the second [Files] section to look like this:

[Files]
d1,usbboot.inf
d1,_default.pif
d1,12520437.cpx
d1,12520850.cpx

....

6-C) usb.inf

Change the bolded lines in the [StandardHub.AddService] and [CommonClassParent.AddService] sections:

[StandardHub.AddService]
DisplayName = %StandardHub.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 0 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %12%\usbhub.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Boot Bus Extender

[CommonClassParent.AddService]
DisplayName = %GenericParent.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 0 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %12%\usbccgp.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Boot Bus Extender


6-D) usbport.inf

Change the bolded lines in the [EHCI.AddService], [OHCI.AddService] , [UHCI.AddService] and [ROOTHUB.AddService] sections:

[EHCI.AddService]
DisplayName = %EHCIMP.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 0 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %12%\usbehci.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Boot Bus Extender


[OHCI.AddService]
DisplayName = %OHCIMP.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 0 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %12%\usbohci.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Boot Bus Extender


[UHCI.AddService]
DisplayName = %UHCIMP.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 0 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %12%\usbuhci.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Boot Bus Extender


[ROOTHUB.AddService]
DisplayName = %ROOTHUB.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1 ; SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER
StartType = 0 ; SERVICE_DEMAND_START
ErrorControl = 1 ; SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL
ServiceBinary = %12%\usbhub.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Boot Bus Extender

6-E) usbstor.inf

Change / Add the bolded lines in the [USBSTOR.AddService] section

[USBSTOR.AddService]
DisplayName = %USBSTOR.SvcDesc%
ServiceType = 1
StartType = 0
Tag = 3
ErrorControl = 1
ServiceBinary = %12%\USBSTOR.SYS
LoadOrderGroup = Boot Bus Extender


6-F) new file: USBBOOT.INF

Create a new file called USBBOOT.INF in the same directory as your other changed files, and put the following content into it:

[usbservices]

HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USBSTOR","DisplayName",0x00000000,"USB Mass Storage Driver"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USBSTOR","ErrorControl",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USBSTOR","Group",0x00000000,"System Reserved"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USBSTOR","ImagePath",0x00020000,"system32\DRIVERS\USBSTOR.SYS"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USBSTOR","Start",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\USBSTOR","Type",0x00010001,1

HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbehci","DisplayName",0x00000000,"USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller Miniport Driver"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbehci","ErrorControl",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbehci","Group",0x00000000,"System Reserved"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbehci","ImagePath",0x00020000,"system32\DRIVERS\usbehci.sys"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbehci","Start",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbehci","Type",0x00010001,1

HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbhub","DisplayName",0x00000000,"USB2 Enabled Hub"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbhub","ErrorControl",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbhub","Group",0x00000000,"System Reserved"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbhub","ImagePath",0x00020000,"system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbhub","Start",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbhub","Type",0x00010001,1

HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbuhci","DisplayName",0x00000000,"Microsoft USB Universal Host Controller Miniport Driver"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbuhci","ErrorControl",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbuhci","Group",0x00000000,"System Reserved"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbuhci","ImagePath",0x00020000,"system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbuhci","Start",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbuhci","Type",0x00010001,1

HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","DisplayName",0x00000000,"Microsoft USB Open Host Controller Miniport Driver"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","ErrorControl",0x00010001,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","Group",0x00000000,"System Reserved"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","ImagePath",0x00020000,"system32\DRIVERS\usbohci.sys"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","Start",0x00010001,0
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbohci","Type",0x00010001,1




7) Repack the inf files into their original IN_ format

If you have not already deleted your extracted .IN_ files, do so now. They need to be replaced. Open a DOS shell again, and navigate to the folder with your changed files. Then exceute the following commands:

cabarc n USB.IN_ usb.inf
cabarc n USBPORT.IN_ usbport.inf
cabarc n USBSTOR.IN_ usbstor.inf

The three IN_ files should now exist again.

Congratulations. All out modifications are done.


8) Inject the changed files into the ISO

Open your Windows CD image again with WinISO. Navigate to the I386 folder, and delete the following files from the ISO, saving the changes to the ISO afterwards:

•DOSNET.INF
•TXTSETUP.SIF
•USB.IN_
•USBPORT.IN_
•USBSTOR.IN_

Just to be sure all is updated in the ISO, cloase and repoen the ISO in WinISO. Now, again go to the I386 folder and select "Add Files". Now add your changed files, in detail:

•USBBOOT.INF
•DOSNET.INF
•TXTSETUP.SIF
•USB.IN_
•USBPORT.IN_
•USBSTOR.IN_
Save the ISO. You are done.

9) Burn the ISO back to CD

Feel free to use any burning package you want. I used the free and simple Burnatonce

10) Install Windows XP from the CD



Shut down your computer. Disconnect ANY internal and external hard drives (so Windows cannot find them during installation and mess up their Master Boot Records hehe). Some computers will have trouble to boot without an internal HDD attached, check in your BIOS and, if possible, remove the HDD from the boot sequence and set the USB Harddisk as the first boot device, and the CDROM as second.


Also, now connect your USB Harddrive directly to the computer, without any Hubs in between.





Windows should install just fine, with the exceptions noted below.

Issues you will encounter during installation:

•During driver installation, the USB drivers will prompt you, as they are "not certified" - This is normal. Our changes invalidated the checksum, and therefore the driver is no longer signed. Just press "yes" a couple of times.
•Upon completion of the install, the system will complain once on the first bootup that the pagefile does not exist. You can ignore this for now, as Windows will work fine without it. People are looking at fixing this issue, but its not critical for now.


Once everything is up and running , shut down and

Jimmy Staff 2009-11-20